Comments on: Are we going towards a failed State? http://www.quackonline.net/general/are-we-going-towards-a-failed-state/ TIP's independent student newspaper Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:43:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: silent observer http://www.quackonline.net/general/are-we-going-towards-a-failed-state/comment-page-1/#comment-12070 silent observer Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:20:20 +0000 http://www.quackonline.net/?p=2697#comment-12070 Well said Rameez and khalid syed. Great effort. Though here is my inputs on the issue. Firstly the order of the contributing factor of failed state should upside down order i.e 1 political/judiciary system, 2 economic factor, 3 social factor. I am saying that because the social and economic factor, are as the khalid syed said is true for every developing country. The second thing I always do when i get the chance and also wanted to add and convey to everyone through this medium is do not use the word "Islamic Extremism" because there is no such thing as extremism in Islam. These are the media generated word which unfortunately most the world has fallen prey to and i must say that we ourselves also done the same. Islam is a religion of peace and the doctrines of "Dhear inch ki Masjid" and henceforth their eccentric and misguided teachings and methods are not part of Islam. And the problem arise because we ourselves are not listening to the best critics on the topic and the best critics of oneself is ourselves. if each and everyone do the self assessments about the only the basic teachings of Islam like the daily prayers and recitation of the Holy Quran with translation, we can truly exterminate a lot of these misconceptions. If we think about the situation as whole Rameez has got the most important contributing factor in there and if we can have a solid political situation coming from the 'common sense democratic country people' i.e. us ... i don't see why Pakistan can not survive the economic downfall and providing the safeguard for the intellectual wealth as well rising from the deprived situation the nation is in at present. And instead of drowning to become a failed state we will rise as a developing nation. Ameen Well said Rameez and khalid syed. Great effort.
Though here is my inputs on the issue. Firstly the order of the contributing factor of failed state should upside down order i.e 1 political/judiciary system, 2 economic factor, 3 social factor. I am saying that because the social and economic factor, are as the khalid syed said is true for every developing country.
The second thing I always do when i get the chance and also wanted to add and convey to everyone through this medium is do not use the word “Islamic Extremism” because there is no such thing as extremism in Islam. These are the media generated word which unfortunately most the world has fallen prey to and i must say that we ourselves also done the same. Islam is a religion of peace and the doctrines of “Dhear inch ki Masjid” and henceforth their eccentric and misguided teachings and methods are not part of Islam. And the problem arise because we ourselves are not listening to the best critics on the topic and the best critics of oneself is ourselves. if each and everyone do the self assessments about the only the basic teachings of Islam like the daily prayers and recitation of the Holy Quran with translation, we can truly exterminate a lot of these misconceptions.

If we think about the situation as whole Rameez has got the most important contributing factor in there and if we can have a solid political situation coming from the ‘common sense democratic country people’ i.e. us … i don’t see why Pakistan can not survive the economic downfall and providing the safeguard for the intellectual wealth as well rising from the deprived situation the nation is in at present. And instead of drowning to become a failed state we will rise as a developing nation. Ameen

]]> By: Raza http://www.quackonline.net/general/are-we-going-towards-a-failed-state/comment-page-1/#comment-12064 Raza Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:04:03 +0000 http://www.quackonline.net/?p=2697#comment-12064 Let the article of Rameez aside, the comment of Khalid Syed (Who is he?) is an article by itself.Looks like Rameez has good people around Let the article of Rameez aside, the comment of Khalid Syed (Who is he?) is an article by itself.Looks like Rameez has good people around

]]> By: Khalid Syed http://www.quackonline.net/general/are-we-going-towards-a-failed-state/comment-page-1/#comment-12063 Khalid Syed Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:55:43 +0000 http://www.quackonline.net/?p=2697#comment-12063 Khalid Syed wrote: This is an inspirational and audacious article from a budding young writer with an astute of the affairs of the country I pray for him to have more and more degree of analytical thinking which he has been bestowed with. We need people like him and only they can take the nation high. I appreciate the analytical attitude and concern towards the country. Your thoughts and efforts as youth are rather commendable. Having said all that I have following minor observations though: These are my personal ideas, and I do not mean to be critical as I like the article and the thought. Only speaking of infiltration from “Afghanistan” is not exactly correct, we can say it neighbors as a whole. Another point of concern on which I quite agree with you. We are losing our intellectual wealth. In the political indicators, I tend to agree with you and whole of the nation has a common consensus on that, but the latest development in Judiciary and the present conditions prevailing in this particular direction do give a hope for the future, could be near future Your statement “Furthermore; police, rangers and other law-enforcement agencies seems only to provide security to country’s top ruling elites” caught my attention. Here I have a difference of opinion as neglecting the services, which are being rendered by the law enforcing agencies at present the statement would be undermining their efforts for common people. See the statistics available in daily news papers, these guys are laying their lives daily for providing security to the common people Speaking of various “Liberation Groups”: Here I tend to disagree as this factor is still dominant in many countries of third world, particularly the developing ones. Even the developed countries have faced this situation, like IRA in GB and even the neighour which is one of the largest democracies of the world, we see groups like Tamil Nad, and in Sri Lank we see Tamil Tigers. This thing although disturbing, alone does not contribute towards a nations being declared as failed state. It is a matter of concern, and would definitely result in Chaos if not attended to in time. It is rather a result of economic frustration and being deprived of legitimate rights on one or more sectors, which can be resolved as examples are available in past. Efforts are required in this direction to save the nation from becoming a failed state. Khalid Syed wrote: This is an inspirational and audacious article from a budding young writer with an astute of the affairs of the country I pray for him to have more and more degree of analytical thinking which he has been bestowed with. We need people like him and only they can take the nation high. I appreciate the analytical attitude and concern towards the country. Your thoughts and efforts as youth are rather commendable. Having said all that I have following minor observations though: These are my personal ideas, and I do not mean to be critical as I like the article and the thought.
Only speaking of infiltration from “Afghanistan” is not exactly correct, we can say it neighbors as a whole.

Another point of concern on which I quite agree with you. We are losing our intellectual wealth.

In the political indicators, I tend to agree with you and whole of the nation has a common consensus on that, but the latest development in Judiciary and the present conditions prevailing in this particular direction do give a hope for the future, could be near future

Your statement “Furthermore; police, rangers and other law-enforcement agencies seems only to provide security to country’s top ruling elites” caught my attention. Here I have a difference of opinion as neglecting the services, which are being rendered by the law enforcing agencies at present the statement would be undermining their efforts for common people. See the statistics available in daily news papers, these guys are laying their lives daily for providing security to the common people

Speaking of various “Liberation Groups”: Here I tend to disagree as this factor is still dominant in many countries of third world, particularly the developing ones. Even the developed countries have faced this situation, like IRA in GB and even the neighour which is one of the largest democracies of the world, we see groups like Tamil Nad, and in Sri Lank we see Tamil Tigers. This thing although disturbing, alone does not contribute towards a nations being declared as failed state. It is a matter of concern, and would definitely result in Chaos if not attended to in time. It is rather a result of economic frustration and being deprived of legitimate rights on one or more sectors, which can be resolved as examples are available in past. Efforts are required in this direction to save the nation from becoming a failed state.

]]> By: Disappointed http://www.quackonline.net/general/are-we-going-towards-a-failed-state/comment-page-1/#comment-12045 Disappointed Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:07:06 +0000 http://www.quackonline.net/?p=2697#comment-12045 After reading this article initially i thought that we are not going towards a failed state but today after hearing about 5000 shops bieng destroyed completely and losing every thing in them, my perception has changed now, and i think we are not only going towards a failed state but we have crossed all the limits and borders that follows this way and YES we are a faied nation having FAILED state. After reading this article initially i thought that we are not going towards a failed state but today after hearing about 5000 shops bieng destroyed completely and losing every thing in them, my perception has changed now, and i think we are not only going towards a failed state but we have crossed all the limits and borders that follows this way and YES we are a faied nation having FAILED state.

]]> By: Ali Hafeez http://www.quackonline.net/general/are-we-going-towards-a-failed-state/comment-page-1/#comment-12036 Ali Hafeez Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:15:08 +0000 http://www.quackonline.net/?p=2697#comment-12036 How was the cleanup drive @ TIP? How was the cleanup drive @ TIP?

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