Finally..they have learnt the idea!

Students and faculty members had been criticizing TIP’s higher authorities for not marketing our institute the way it should be. Finally, they have learnt and they came up with a colorful advertisement with a slight touch of glamour. Those who have missed today’s DAWN (14 Dec, 2008), Quack! provides you with the latest update…

Your comments are most welcome about this “great” thought and idea! 🙂

38 Replies to “Finally..they have learnt the idea!”

  1. all i can say is.. they are aliveeee!!!!
    i mean what else could attract public for the second test more then this….i really want to know who’s idea this actually was!!!….oh and nice haircut sidra

  2. i like da whole idea and da layout.
    atleast now its professional, and hoping dat now peolpe wud approach TIP with a serious mind to start a career in textiles.

  3. god bless those who actually join this institute thinking its full of pretty girls , boy are they in for a shock :p

  4. I like the idea that they’re actually able to deceive people by having a design graduate as a model, and not taking design students =p LOL .. Smart work.

  5. She is the only convent girl here. She came here because she belongs to the memon family which gave contributions to TIP and APTMA.
    So no wonder. the choice.

    It should have been Nimra Waseem or Nida Khan or someone with a better academic record. Not some dumb-glam-model

  6. Without commentin on nything else, I noe this 1 thing for sure. shez definitely not dumb. Could it b possible that at some tym in ur life, she won an argument from yyew and left yew humiliated in front of your friends? 🙂

  7. @ the so-called “great thought and idea”
    when will the higher authorities of TIP will learn that the graduates of TIP are not recognized as engineers by PEC and they need to do something about it as soon as possible

  8. Saad I think that’s because graduates from TIP are not engineers in the first place.

    If someone’s looking for an engineering degree, there’s a host of institutions offering suitable programs.

  9. “”Carrier in Textiles is just as fruitful as on in medicine and Accountancy””
    Lollll:D…..she must b jokin!!

  10. @ TIP victim
    i wouldnt say that i think textiles at the moment is much better than accountancy and medicine, cause there is a growing number of crappy doctors who dont want work outside karachi in pakistan and banks well lets not talk about banks at the moment i think you can make that one out yourself in any case if you are determined youll be successful..

  11. @ nevermind

    still doesn’t justify a career in textiles right now. I am a Texpert and i joined TIP at the time when the industry was booming, when we graduated it just came crippling down so my dear it doesn’t really make sense of anyone going into textiles right now.

    P.S. those who are already in Textiles are considering changing their field of work.

  12. @ Rameez & Nevermind.

    textiles is at Huge slump from last couple of years!! Big textile tycoons are running out of orders, therefore instead of growing, industry and job opportunities starts shrinking, people getttnig jobless. Only in karachi different Textile Universities producing altleast 200 graduates per year.
    dear, situation is worst than ever! just conduct a servey of Texperts that how many of them wants to quit the textiles? m sure the percentage would be more than 60-70%..

  13. i am not going to disagree with the fact that people might want to switch jobs and what not but..
    @salman
    as you said yourself when you joined TIP it was booming and by the time you got into the market it went down.. well every industry has its booms and slumps thas simple economics.. its a business cycle in my opinion it is the best time for TIP students to prosper i dont know why but people who are being laid off are people who arnt contributing much.. and with the knowledge youll guys have youll can really turn it around, this is the time to show your potentials and as far as i know textiles has evolved over the years and it keeps evolving id still say its better regardless of people wanting to switch.
    @ TIP victim
    job switching quitting textiles not liking it, from what i can understand from your statement is that they are employed but dont like it or what not thas not due to the industry its mostly their preference, i wouldnt want to conduct a survey outside id rather conduct a survery in TIP and let you know how many people actually wanted to join TIP and how many people just came cause they weren’t accepted elsewhere.

  14. @ nevermind

    i dont know if you’re a texpert or still a student but one thing i gotta say is that you’re being optimisic thats good in a situation where things might have a hope of getting better. I like to think of myself as being a realist and textiles just doesn’t do it for me .. sorry if i hurt your or any other texpert’s feelings

  15. @ salman
    haha its ok i can understand but then again see it is your own preference, it just seems that your expectations are a whole lot more than what textiles has to offer at the moment.. but in any case hope that you find success in whichever industry you choose..

  16. @nevermind
    well it is not due to preference but it is due to sluggish carrier growth in Textiles! the picture what TIP portray to its student that they are the savior of Industry in pakistan and industry is waiting for us to welcome, and we can bring revolutionary changes in industry bla bla…

    TIP is just good in showing a illusionary world to its students! there is no practical use of education in industry what TIP is providing us…

    yes you can get the job right after your graduation, but that will hardly cover your 7 lacs of ur education..starting 12-15 k and after 3-4 years you salary will be lingering around 30k!!:D loll…Hav a bLast!!

  17. @ nevermind

    Thanks for the wish. But i like your optimism, i hope for the sake of TIP and Pakistan that this industry starts growing again.

    or else we’ll be rid of already very less exports of Pakistan.

  18. @ TIP victim
    haha i dont know why i am saying this but i dont seem to like TIP much either for a number of reasons but before i proceed i hope your a texpert and that whatever i say does not offend you. the thing is that every university does the same and please dont start comparing TIP to NTU or IBA or even LUMS i think thats stupid and wel ive heard enough of it from them also..
    but like every university it just provides you with the knowledge i am extremly sure of the fact that instead of you spending your 700k here you could have learnt the same or more by spending that amount of time in the industry, but there is a difference and i have seen it, if only we as students or grads should and would stop rote learning, we would be in a much better state. what your saying is that you had the grades but did not get the rite returns for them well this mite clear the dust i hope
    everywhere your degree just gets you into the field or office or industry from there onwards your degree doesnt do jack, its how well you interpret your knowledge into the working will..
    cause believe me 2 + 2 = 4 but what should you take as the 2’s is upto you be it sheeps or money but that is only if you have the understanding you will be able to do that otherwise its 15 to 17k in the begining and in 3 years time its a dwelling 30k.
    what i believe TIP needs is a sound career counseling for its students and a really good marketing program to have a better pool of applicants to select from.

    and as for you saying;
    “well it is not due to preference but it is due to sluggish carrier growth in Textiles! the picture what TIP portray to its student that they are the savior of Industry in pakistan and industry is waiting for us to welcome, and we can bring revolutionary changes in industry bla bla…

    TIP is just good in showing a illusionary world to its students! there is no practical use of education in industry what TIP is providing us…”

    I dont think TIP is doing that, but then again i have seen students who ask some of the most stupidest of questions and then the POOR management people have to deal with them and i guess this is what little assurance they can provide..
    this post is getting a lil too long and im sure even tips victim wouldnt want to read it ..

    @ abid, Furhan
    guys please start providing font modification tools for the comments please..
    have fun

  19. @nevermind
    Yes m a texpert and working in a very very prestigious and famous textile organization of Pakistan..loll

    Well, ur enthusiasm reminding me exactly what we and many others were filled with once v were in TIP. Therefore it is a very much expected reaction from anyone studying in TIP because uptill now u have experienced industry only through internships, teachers n texperts n so on. It is pity much natural reaction for any glinting specie (assumin Textile Industry) from a distance. Excitement for taking second step is always soo high that m sure right now while sitting on the first step you can even write a rhyme for it, so u r not new dear.

    “”everywhere your degree just gets you into the field or office or industry from there onwards your degree doesnt do jack, its how well you interpret your knowledge into the working will..
    cause believe me 2 + 2 = 4 but what should you take as the 2’s is upto you be it sheeps or money but that is only if you have the understanding you will be able to do that otherwise its 15 to 17k in the begining and in 3 years time its a dwelling 30k””

    Dear whether you go for intelligent or rote learning; nothing gonna help you much. The curriculum you studying, not al all wat industry require. Yes it is true that your degree just get you into the field, infact you do not require your degree either in order to get a job. Even if you are a simple B.com, just mention TIP, NED or any other professional university on the resume, hirer won`t even make effort to see your degree or any other proofing document for accountability. Surprised????? Many times even NED,SFDC or TIP names are also not require; Hirer just need to hire a “Employee” whether he/she belongs to TIP, NED or simple B.Com passed/failed Student, Doesn’t matter!! They does not require professionals, they only needs intellectual donkeys!! Therefore here 2 & 2 always mean the same no matter wat special efforts and understanding you may implement…

    Now m sure now u must be thinking to respond in the way that IT IS OUR DUTY TO MAKE PEOPLE REALISE THAT WE ARE DIFFERENT, SPECIAL AND ALL …Yes, they have realized that we are special and we have been asked to on many occasions to brings more professionals like us into the organization…..LOlZZzz!! but no use… Because all of their realizations only bring you “verbal appreciation” not “monetary””. Just leave your position vacant and there are always atleast half a dozen candidates always waiting to fill up your position in half of the salary what u get. Dear to get a job in textiles is the easiest thing; however to grow up you carrier? you won`t understand until and u less you yourself will b in a profession.

    Well am totally agree that TIP badly needs a carrier counseling for its students as currently whetehr belive it or not situation is worst than the accountancy and medical!
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    Peace out…

  20. I am amazed as what kind of stuff you people are talking about an industry which caters Pakistan’s 60% exports. Some of you are really very negative approached, not everyone is faced with the same circumstances as you are. I dont know much since I am already in my 3rd year. I have seen and asked various TEXPERTS about textile industry and they all admits that yes it is in slump but none of them are that discouraging and demotivating as your comments are. There is always a way and there will be a way. I can still assure and feels that textiles are better than computer science and that simple BBA stuff.

    C’mon people! Have a break. Boost yourself. There are hundred of ways.

    A note of advice: Expectations are the worst things in life. If you had expected 1 lakh salary in 4-5 years and you are not getting it; I am sorry for that. Never expect rather prepare for the worst and always hope for the best.

  21. dude you’re just saying that because it feels good to know that you will be taken care of when you graduate.
    Regarding the expectation, look around yourself, people who changed their line of work are enjoying good salaries, good benefits and overall a good life. Isn’t that what you want ?

    or do you still want to work for a factory who doesn’t care for your personal being, offers you a minimal salary and treats you like shit ?

    think about it.. its good to be optimistic but sometimes you need to be realistic.

  22. @Salman
    There is no end to “GOOD” salaries and “GOOD” benefits and “GOOD” life! There are and will always be people better than you having better salaries!

    Think about it!

  23. Isn’t that why you work in the first place ? To have a good life ?

    Anyways, consider this the last of my message because it has been going on for long. Maybe you’ll remember my words when you face the music. Till then, ciao.

  24. Dear Rameez imagine this, you wake up 7 in the morning go to your office on a public bus hanging on the gate. you spent 12 hrs in factory transporting fabric from one place to another. fighting over your account priorities as if you are the only benificiary of the profit. you work even on sundays and public holidays in hope of a better future and you end up being treated as shit! sometimes you wont even understand your Job description. you end ur day at 11:00 in the night following up labels, polybags, batchers, fabric, buttons for the rest of your 6-7 years.

    These words seem like from a very pessimist person but this is what life in a factory is all about for 95% of the TIP grads…now u will say i will be from the rest of 5%. well.. then you must be a cuzon,nephew or a relative of saith!

    there are exceptions depending upon very hard work and a loooot of luck! may you be one of them….

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